immigration reform, infrastructure, building high speed rail, getting rid of the deficit. education. we have to look at very carefully how do we stay competitive internationally with manufacturing and all this stuff? so there is a lot of issues that need to be addressed. we can't just freeze and say, it's hard to negotiate with the white house. everything is hard. when i sat there in sacramento, every single thing, you just wanted to build a road, it was a major issue. you had to negotiate for two years. but you can never give up. that's the most important thing. >> gretchen: the important other story is lance armstrong and coming clean on this interview last night with oprah winfrey. what do you make of the culture that we live in now where more and more people, including yourself, find themselves in situations where they have lied? >> i've never lied. >> gretchen: you never lied? >> you talking about my scandal that i had? i came very clean when my wife asked me the simple question. this is true. i said yes. i went out to the public and i immediately said, here is the si